Funny thing about you foreigners opintions....(F-22)

[JaFu]

Lomik, here's an idea: how bout you sit on your thumb and twirl. It's idiots like you that remind me to be thankful I'm not an idiot.

The reason for my comment about Reagan is that it shows what is typical of most morons like yourself...they lack conviction. I'm going to guess here that with the aggressive foreign policy of the Reagan administration, especially in light of the fact that it was aimed at the Soviets, a nation which you haven't been too shy about stating your support for, you probably disagree with most of what Reagan did with the same intensity that you hate nearly everything else that has anything to do with American politics. Therefore, I just find it ironic that you will pick and choose opportune moments to support a person's philosophy so long as it coincides with your own childish, moronic, and ignorant viewpoints, but at the first sight of its divergence from your ideals you immediately turn the other cheek...it just sounds a little hypocritical to me.

I will say one thing in your favor though: you're great at playing the devil's advocate...for every comment made on this forum we can count on you to make an argument against it. It's too bad that your responses generally require the same level of intelligence as a brick.

As far as making stuff up...well that's another comment to highlight your hypocrisy. You come to this forum rarely sighting facts and nearly always sighting opinion. That's fine with me as long as the debate is opinion oriented, but when it's not and you attempt to carefully dress your comments in a futile attempt to make them appear to be gospel I have a problem with that. I could drag up numerous posts of yours that highlight the typical level of your research: none. However, I don't have the time or the inclination to do so at this point in time.

"Just because something didn’t happen yet, doesn’t mean it never will. Democratic, Communist or other form of government doesn’t mean sh*t… governments change, so do people, causes, opinions and religions. " - Lomik
This is exactly what I was saying; Germany is a different country now than 60 years ago. However, does that mean that they are likely to fall back into Communism or dictoral rule...not likely. Name me one ESTABLISHED democratic society, like Germany or France, which has fallen back into another form of government. Please pick whether you want to use history as precedence or not, because history says that democracy is a stable government and that a democratic country doesn't go to war against another democratic country.

[Erl]

Originally posted by FoverF
The problem is that Congress seems to have the idea that future conflicts will turn out to be just like the last ones (a painfully common mistake throughout history), and so see no need for the F-22.

Cutting the F-22's numbers to a pittance to LM shows a major lack of foresight in Congress.

Cross your fingers and pray it's not reduced any more. The USAF is doing everything they can to keep the numbers up, which means that they're underfunding every other platform. Hopefully they'll get all the Raptors they need.

[FoverF]

Just a little note JaFu;
There have been plenty of democracies that have changed into other forms of government. Democracy is hardly a new idea. It comes and goes. There were plenty of cities in Germany that were democracies before the word "America" was even dreamt of. Most of the Greek states were democracies at some point in time. Some last a long time, some only a few years (kind of like today). But eventually they are either conquered in war, or society can no longer tolerate the irresponsibility that democracy entails. People have had a complacency lately, thinking that we are approaching the 'end of history'. But sh*t is still going to happen.
(and let's all try to avoid the name-calling. If you don't like what someone wrote, don't respond to it)

This of course ties in with the topic at hand, which is that the USAF is having it's capabilites compromised because those in higher places think they know exactly what's going to happen in the world in the next 30 years.

Imagine yourself in 1989. Then imagine someone telling you that within 2 years Germany would be united (and WOULDN'T invade France ), that South Africa would be under PRESIDENT Mandela, that Iran and Iraq would be allies, and that the USSR WOULD COMPLETELY CEASE TO EXIST. All within 2 years.

The world is an unpredictable place. The only thing you can be certain of is that not much will happen that hasn't happened before.

The world is an unpredictable place

[Lomik]

Fag got pissed… what a drama queen performance… Oscar worthy! Almost made me cry…

First of all JaFu, no one called you names, therefore save your five-year-old outbursts for your mommy. Don’t like my opinions; don’t read them, yet alone respond. This forum is full of opinions, including yours… so don’t b*tch to whom or what.

If you want to continue civilized discussion… then we can. If not… just climb under your instructors desk and do some deep throat blow for a while… stick with your daily routine, dumb f*ck.

And enough with the Germany bullsh*t… you’re the only one who’s insisting on it. I’m talking about the whole thing in general. If you think that U.S. will always be in alliance with Europe, (Germany or France, whatever), or visa versa… then you’re a bigger fool than I thought.

“..because history says that democracy is a stable government and that a democratic country doesn't go to war against another democratic country.” – JaFu

You’ve based the whole history on a 60-year period… laughable. With the know-all opinions like that, is there a point to go further? Don’t think so…

“Name me one ESTABLISHED democratic society, like Germany or France, which has fallen back into another form of government” – JaFu

Russia and Germany among others, had one or other form of Social Democratic government/ society before revolution in Russia, and Nazis party takeover in Germany… you stupid f*ck.

[JaFu]

ForeverF, I realize that there have been democracies before which have fallen, but not due to choice. Those German cities that existed before the word America existed fell out of democracy were conqured, same as the greek cities and the roman ones...they were all slowly chipped away. Now, as for modern democracies going away, well it just doesn't happen anymore. With a global economy, the average democratic society has a free and open economy which translates into a rather large economy which translates into a better military...this means it is pretty unlikely the average democracy today will be attacked. Not to mention that most democratic nations are allies with one another, so if one is attacked they can expect a lot of powerful countries to "have their back" so to speak.

Now seriously, please tell me that you don't really expect France or Germany to be attacking the U.S. anytime soon or visa versa...please tell me you don't really think that.

And as for me calling people names, it wasn't directed towards you, so I didn't intend to offend you, and if I did I appologize. But Lomik needs to hear it...the guy is a fag.

[JaFu]

Lomik...hence the word ESTABLISHED...I'm not talking about a government that was a democracy for a year or two before a coup overthrew the government. I'm talking about a country which has an ESTABLISHED history of democracy, like Germany and France do now.

[Lomik]

Sh*t... homo can't even come up with some original name callings... has to repeat after what I've said... ny eban... ee a mae, kakoi obebaniy petyx... voteto pedrilo zasranoe.